Big Brother 8 Daily Coverage

12:30AM BBT: Joe hops in bed with Amber. Amber tells him he "Reeks of alcohol." Amber says it's not bad since her boyfriend smells like that in bed "Stay close stay close"

I just don't know what to make of Nick. Most straight guys, even liberal gay-friendly guys, don't welcome gay men kissing them and jumping on top of them, Nick just acts like he doesn't care. See the Video

Amber jokingly asks Joe to tell her about the Shannon Elizabeth story. Joe said he had a straight friend and would to tell him to give him 60 seconds and if he got him hard then he could play with it. Nick laughs and says it's about friction. Joe says that he got down to 10 seconds but his friend never took the offer. Nick says what his friend would get out of it if he loses and jokes around and says he would let him drag him with his truck.

12:45AM BBT: Joe and Dustin in BY in the hammock, having a heart to heart. Joe talking about giving Dustin respect and not getting it back over the past couple of days. Dustin says that he asked for this respect, and did not give it back to him, "I have not told anyone about our outside of the house life, and you went around and had a lot to say about me. You asked for this respect and gave me none."

Joe and Dustin relationship talk continues.. Selfishness, not being open, and Joe says Dustin will never be ready for relationship because, "There is no magical day that comes along and magically you're grown up." Dustin tells him it's hard to see him without seeing pain and lies. Joe says when did I lie. Dustin said Joe stole all his friends and even admitted he did. Dustin doesn't like how he tells everyone that he "Spoon fed him a life." This soap opera was ended by a FotH.

1:30AM BBT: Mike joined the group at the table talking about his/father height. They start to compare notes about the CBS physicals they had to take. Eric and Dick had to strip to their underwear while Mike said all they did was check his blood pressure. Dick said he wasn't wearing any since boxers give him wedgie and if someone else does laundry he would be embarrassed from the skid marks. Dick talking about anal chaffing and Jameka offering him use to her Vaseline. [The feeds switch and we are spared further details.]

Earlier in the evening the boys were planning a sumo wrestling match, with loin cloths and pillows on their stomachs. I don't know what happened to these plans, but at 2:00AM we have a wrestling match going on in the dining room between Jen and Eric with Jameka giving the play by play and Mike, Zach, Jessica, and Dick looking on and cheering for no one in particular. Jen seems to be a pretty strong girl. But then again this is Eric we're talking about, and Jen is comes out the winner. During the critique of the match, Eric tried to convince everybody that he wasn't really trying and was just goofing around.

2:30AM BBT: Dick and Joe on the patio smoking and talking game. Dick says that if he gets HoH, the outcome will be very unexpected. He says how he generally likes everybody in the house, but could easily cut the numbers in half (people he thinks should go). Dick does most the talking and Joe really doesn't seem to have a real opinion about anything except not getting put on the block. Dick assures him that he wouldn't go up if he gets HoH. They end their talk and go back inside.

Mike and Jen are still up sitting at the kitchen counter. General chit chat - nothing BB related at the moment. Neither one is 100% sure that we can hear them on the love feeds. Mike's guess would be yes. He notes the time as 3:40 and they both shift to the bathroom. Jen heads on up to the HoH room and Mike to the round bed he shares with Dick. 4:00AM BBT: They're all sleeping.

7:10AM BBT: They're still sleeping. 9:40AM BBT : Yes, they're still sleeping.

It's 10:10AM BBT: Dustin gets up and Kail isn't far behind him. Daily ADLs and kitchen duties. At 10:30AM BBT: I can hear snoring from one of the rooms (I think it's Dick) while Dustin and Kail chit chat in the kitchen.

10:55AM BBT: Dustin and Kail are talking. He says, "Amber and I don't talk about the game, we connect. She'll just be like...'Your breath stinks'" Kail laughs and is surprised they are so close together. Kail asks if she ever feels romantic for him (he is gay...awkward). Dustin says that is the benefit of being a homosexual because people can be honest with him because he feels that in romantic relationship there are more secrets than in friendships. Kail asks if straight men are awkward around him. He says usually no. Dustin says he does not act as flamboyant as "some people" (a jab at Joe, perhaps).

Kail is talking about a time when she was shopping and there was a girl and a gay guy sale associate and he helped her pick out the perfect shoes. She says she would always goes back to him. Dustin says that some gays butcher fashion and push the envelope with fashion. Dustin feels they are "pushing the stereotype way too far!" Jen is up in the HoH restroom brushing her teeth.

From 11:50AM to Noon it was just FotH. Joe and Jessica are in the backyard, talking about their parent's marriage. Joe says he got the feeling that somebody died yesterday. They talk about what would happen if they found out that someone in their family died. Joe says that is the only way he'd voluntarily leave, but he says he talked to his grandparents and his grandfather is touch-and-go. He says there would be no hard feelings if he missed his grandpa's funeral. Eric disagrees with my forecast and says that despite the clouds it's really hot out.

Today's weather: Jen's happy that it's cloudy today in Studio City, as it's been too hot. Right now it's 77°, under mostly cloudy skies. Temperatures are expected to only hit a high of 80° today, which is not common. Tomorrow is supposed to be the same before temps start to rise and they get back into the 90's on Friday.

12:20PM BBT: Eric and Zach wrestle in the backyard. Eric weighs 150, Zach is 225, so you can figure out the results for yourself.

12:45PM BBT: The fact the Disney shut down the "Back to the Future" ride leads to Nick and Zach talking about how cool it would be to own a De Lorean. Zach says he got to sit in one for a few minutes and they're pretty shabby. "Yeah, but it's a De Lorean, 'Back to the Future,' dude." Zach says it would be easy to pick up chicks, but Nick says he doesn't need that, he has Daniele.

1:15PM BBT: Zach and Carol talk in the BY. She says that if she wins HoH, there's only one person she wants out, and that's Dick. She finds him crude and offensive. "It's not even a game thing, it's just a personal thing." She says the only reason she's campaigning is because the producers told her she has to fight to stay in, [You might consider this manipulating the game, however every one gets the same speech.] Zach thinks for a while and makes her an offer. He says that if he campaigns to keep her in, then she'd have to vote for who he asks for the next two weeks. She agrees.

2:15PM BBT: Nothing worth reporting has happened, you can read all about it in the live feed reports. Daniele and Joe talked about how they're voting: They both say they're voting to evict Carol.

2:30PM BBT: Dick asks Kail what she thinks of him as a father. Kail refuses to answer using every polite method she can to dodge this loaded question. Dick proceeds to tell her the story in which he claims Daniele was an absolute bitch to her grandparent guardians, while his son, Vincent was more introverted and caring. When Dick lived in Europe his kids were supposed to spend their summers with him, but his parents didn't send them and he had to take his parents to court. When Dick moved to Hawaii, the kids came out about six times. Dick says Daniele was always so bratty that Dick wouldn't spend time with her and Vincent together, he'd only have them stay over one at a time. Dick started to talk about his father's death, and how his sister, who in Dick's opinion is a drug addicted sociopath, stole all his father's possessions. The subject of his sister causes a long FotH, I assume she hasn't signed a wavier to be depicted on the show.

3:15PM BBT: Carol tells Amber she's starting to see a shift in the votes. People that Carol thought she could count on are voting for Amber and people she thought were in Amber's court aren't as convicted as she thought. Amber quietly answers, "Oh really," Amber tells Carol that she's getting annoyed by the DR interviewers that keep trying to get her to say bad things about Carol. They both admit to lying in the DR to give them the sound bytes they want.

4:05PM BBT: Carol's missing TV. She says she loves "Grey's Anatomy," "So You Think You Can Dance" and "Desperate Housewives."
Daniele likes "SYTYCD" as well. Carol wanted to try out for "SYTYCD." Her dad was going to even pay for her to go audition, when she was 17/18 and at the top of her game (dancing). Now Carol says it is too late for her to audition because she already peaked. Daniele says that her and her manager at Hooters love all reality shows, they watch them all." Zach brings up "Pirate Master" and they agree it's the worst show they've ever seen, and they can't stand to miss an episode.

4:10PM BBT: In the big bed room Dick and Daniele are doing some plotting: Whispering quietly, they talk about Nick, Amber, Eric... They both agree Eric is a floater. Dick says "Be nice to Eric." Dick says that Amber will get rid of Dustin before he gets rid of her. Amber and he had some conversation.

Dick changes topic because Dustin approaches, he covers well, "I want a DR session together as a shout out to Vincent..." Dustin walks by and they continue whispering. Daniele says that Dick needs to get Kail out. Dick wants to Jen get out. Daniele says that Jen hates her.

As the conversation ends, they talk louder again continuing the fake topic about a DR session. Dick says "Please reconsider." and walks away. Dick pretends to be a little frustrated with Danielle and says to Eric: "I tried talking to her! I was hoping her and I could do a DR session together but she is not interested"

4:35PM BBT: Dick tells Jen that John Travolta's wife doesn't like him. Dick said a friend of his wrote a book and is directing the movie, and it stars Kelly Preston. He said he saw her and asked her to flash her tits, and she gave him a really bad look. Jen said she doesn't know any famous women, only men. Joe asked if the rumor was true that John Travolta was gay. Dick said he never heard that rumor, ever, then FotH.

Tonight's Broadcast: Who will win the PoV and will they use it to take either Carol or Amber off the chopping block? Will Eric accomplish his first assignment as America's Player?

A flashback shows the first nomination ceremony. In the DR Amber responds to being nominated: "Kail has kids. I have kids. I would never put her up on the block regardless of anything. She's more worried about making the fairness decision. I mean, she can't come up with anything better than that." Next Carol gives her opinion: "I feel like Kail nominating me and Amber was the safest route for her not pissing people off not showing her true colors." But there's another person impacted by the nominations, and that's Jessica. Jessica would like nothing more than to have her junior high nemesis voted out, "This is working perfectly. I'll die if Carol is not evicted."

The object of their affection

"He tried to kiss me and I pushed him away"

Eric completes his task by telling Kail a made-up story about a girl with an eating disorder. Afterwards Kail said Eric's a sensitive guy.

See Dick. Dick needs a cigarette.

See Daniele win the first PoV of BB8

While talking to Dick, Kail got some extra insight on what Dick is like as a father. "Where did Daniele get her great sense of humor from? She's a crack-up." Kail tells Dick. Dick tells her about his son, Vince. "For his birthday, it's like I love you, man. Took him to a strip bar in Las Vegas. Introducing him to all these things: Strippers, alcohol and gambling. I look at him and I go 'OK, I may not be happy with what you're doing but I couldn't ask for any better of a son.' He's like listening to me. He goes. 'Where do you think I get that from and why do you think I love you so much?' I'm like this heart to heart talk in this strip club, you know. It was very, very cool." Kail says in her DR comments: " I was a little bit blown away that a dad would do that." Dick's DR comment was: "The one thing that I do really have in common with Kail is being a parent. I just want to let her know that there is another half. There are two kids, you know. The other one that's not here I do have a really really tight and close relationship with. " Kail Asks, " Do they have tattoos and stuff like you? " Dick answers: " Not one. Not one." See video

Kail: "He completely confuses me because the exterior doesn't match his interior. His personality is softer. He's more sensitive. "

They show Nick as the house stud, flirting with Daniele, Amber and Jen. Then Jen tells the other girls that Nick tried to kiss her, and she pushed him away. Joe was in earshot and repeated the conversation to Nick. Nick goes to the kitchen to confront her in front of the others. She doesn't admit it's a lie, but the rest of the house is convinced Jen lied. Later, in the SR, Jen admits to Nick that she said it because she was jealous over Nick's attention to the other girls. See video

It's time to pick the players for the veto challenge. Kail hosts the game: "Everybody gather in the living room. It's time to pick players for the competition. The winner can upset the power in the house by taking one of the nominees off the chopping block. Including themselves. Only six house guests will participate. The head of household, the two nominees and three other players selected by a random draw. The two nominees, please join me up here. I, as head of household, and the two nominees will each pull a ball out of the bag to determine the three other players. In addition to balls with players' names if you pull 'Houseguest's Choice,' then you are allowed to select a player to participate in the competition. "

"As HoH, I will pick first. houseguest. Daniele. " From the DR Kail explains that she picked Daniele so as to not show her hand. Amber picked next, she got Jameka. Carol picked Nick. "I also have to choose a host, and I choose Jessica."

Everyone not playing in the HoH was sequestered in the HoH room. As it worked out, Nick was the only guy playing in the PoV challenge, and Jen was the only girl with the sequestered guys in the HoH room.

The PoV begins: "Hide and seek probably seems like child's play to all of you but today it could be the difference between staying in the Big Brother house and going home. Each of you will be given a veto box and put into an isolation booth so you can't communicate with each other. One at a time you will enter the house and find a place to hide. After you've all stashed your vetoes, the fun begins. Everyone put your head sets on, it's time to hide the vetoes. " See Video

So while the seekers tore apart the house downstairs looking for vetoes, in the upstairs HoH bedroom, nerves were beginning to fray. Dick could not stand to be locked-up with Jen, someone he feels has a voice "like chalk on a blackboard."

When the dust settled, Daniele was victorious. The two nominees approached Danile about using the PoV, but in the end, it was Daniele's decision not to use the PoV on either. See video

Other video highlights. Eric's first task

Thanks to smirnoff for the video.

Meanwhile back at the house..... In kitchen, Mike, Daniele and Amber are discussing Dodger Dogs. Daniele loves them, she loves hot dogs, but those are her favorite. Then they move on to Cuban food. Daniele really loves plantains. Mike said he hasn't had them forever. Daniele tells him where she gets them. The place also has Dodger dogs and Ben and Jerry's. Hot dogs need grilled, not microwave according to Mike. Daniele said she takes her food seriously.

The conversation turns to fingerprints on pictures on wall. Mike is going to clean his every day, and add a sparkle to his teeth. Daniele laughed and said everyone else will be hard to see due to the dirt, and his will be sparkling clean. Daniele jokingly insults Mike. She said he will go to the diary room and ask for a muzzle. He said he has ear plugs, he will just wear those, every time he is around her. Later, Mike asks her to wash his picture. She said "are you serious?"

5:20PM BBT: Jen and Zach in the hammock chit-chatting while Mike is throwing the Frisbee with someone. Zach is talking about Vitello's Restaurant on Tujunga Avenue in Studio City and he tells Jen that Robert Blake's wife was shot there. She says really like recently? Zach tells her no it was about six or seven years ago and that is what that restaurant became known for. Feeds switch to lots of HG on the BY sofas, general chit-chat and talk of dinner. Not much going on.

In the Living room Dick is telling a story involving pot. His friends once left their stems and seeds on a record of his in his house. He briefly jokes that is more stupid than the time he cheated on his wife and left the condom wrapper in the middle of his living room floor. Carol and Eric in the Hammock.

6:30PM BBT: Two cameras on Dustin, Nick and Zach working out in the BY. The other feeds are on Daniele and Amber whispering. Daniele is whispering, she is really good at whispering, but we can't decipher what she's saying. . FotH then feeds come back to Amber telling Danielle that Carol told her Amber that she seriously thinks it will be to six to five. Daniele: "For her? seriously?" Amber: "Yeah." [Tough to read? Tough to listen to, it's girl-talk..]

Jameka and Jess are eating some M&M, chocolate ice cream and whipped cream concoction. One of the guys warn them they better watch it or they'll be gaining a lot of weight. Jameka says no, because she doesn't eat often and she just eats breakfast mostly.

Carol tells Mike she didn't want to campaign but she's now forced to. Mike tells her if he helps her she would need to help him, she says obviously. she tells him if he votes to keep her she will back him up and not nominate him. She says she deals with stress by keeping to herself. She doesn't blow up. Carol says she feels like it's getting dirty right now, Mike says it will get worse and eventually someone will get on another's toes and it all will hit the fan...

7:00PM BBT: Carol says "I don't know, I just don't like to make excuses for myself." She asks Mike how will she know that he has her back. He says as long as he knows she has his back she will have his. He tells her he wants to ask around because it's close and he doesn't want it to be close because if he votes against Amber and most people vote to keep Amber it will not be good for him.

Mike asks her if she trusts Joe, she says not in the long run, but right now Joe wants Amber out because she's friends with Dustin so he's on Carol's side, but not because he likes her. She says Daniele told her in the beginning that she couldn't change the nominations but she would not vote against her but she's (Daniele) changed, so Carol doesn't think she has her. Nick has being very close to Amber lately so she thinks he's voting against her (Carol). She didn't think she had Jess's and someone else's vote, but they've changed their vote, it seems in her favor.
Mike tells her he will talk to her tonight.

FotH. When the cams come back, Carol is thanking Mike for talking to her and he tells her, again, that he'll talk to her later after Bobby and Cindy are asleep. [Forget that last part, wrong Mike and Carol]

Mike is about to make pizza, Daniele asks "Where have you been all my life?"

8:20PM BBT: Carol tells Jameka that even though she's close to Amber and Carol doesn't want to do anything dirty, but she wants to tell her position to Jameka. Carol is saying she can't quit now, she wants to stay and fight but she wants to do it the right way, truthful and not stabbing anyone in the back. She is telling Jameka that she has a good backing and that people she was sure she didn't have she found out she does have. At this point Carol says she has five, maybe six but she isn't positive because some people lie and then she falls off the bed and cracks her ass [That's the way Ptmsf our Team Morty reporter said it] Carol tells Jameka that she feels she's is leaning towards Amber and that is fine, but she thinks she is going to stay but people lie, and if Carol has any questions or comments to please ask now. Jameka says no she doesn't then goes into this talk of Amber has something that drew her and she prayed for God to use her as he needed to. Jameka is saying she feels God is leading her to save Amber because Amber pulled Jameka's name for the PoV. Jameka says she sought out through prayer for guidance and she feels God lead her to save Amber this time but next time God might lead her to save another person. Jameka says she isn't making promises to anyone, but who ever says Carol has their votes don't trust them because everyone is out to save themselves.

Now Jameka is just repeating her excuse over and over and trying to convince Carol she is just one vote and she isn't trying to save Amber, she hasn't tried to turn anyone against Carol.

8:30PM BBT: Carol is now explaining how she has made promises to people and they have made promises to her and that is what she has to do right now. She just feels she has a fighting chance. Jameka is explaining how people work in this house. Jameka is telling Carol that she will fight for Carol in the future if she is called to do that by God and Carol says she understands but she can't fight dirty, it isn't in her. Jameka says she felt she would be on the block, but she just slipped by.

Jameka is explaining that also what sealed the deal for her was she found Carol's veto and that just proved to her God wanted her to save Amber. She says this doesn't mean Carol won't stay here, but she needs to do what she feels is right. Jameka says she likes Carol and what she stands for and her honesty and standing up for herself, but she needs to follow God's call. See Video

Zack comes in and rubs some stuff on his face. Jameka says to peroxide his pimple and pray over it.

Carol called him off to the side and she tells him she has six. Zack counts them off and Carol says yes, but she wants one more to be safe. She asks who he thinks would be the one to confront. Zack says he doesn't know but let him eat and think about it and he will get back to her. He leaves. See video

Jess and Daniele are talking and Daniele can't figure out where Carol is coming up with these numbers. Jess asks "For real?" She thinks that it will be a landslide to get rid of Carol. She says that Jen is voting for Carol.

They want Kail and Mike out and they think they have Eric now. Jess wants to put up Kail and Mike and Daniele wants reassurance that Jess is going to try for HoH. Daniele says she isn't sure if she is going to try because she just won the PoV but she will stick it out till the end to make sure it doesn't fall in the wrong hands.

Amber, Dick and Jess are planning on nominating Kail and Daniele said she isn't sure. Daniele is sure Eric likes Jess and Jess said I hope he doesn't tell me that, it will take two hours. [ed. LOL] They want to work on one "that certain" alliance first before they have a chance to get strong. They discuss who they want to put up, who they don't want to get HoH, Jen is a big threat to Daniele. Daniele is talking about how she wants this week over so they can move on to the next victim and Amber is definitely in their alliance and the way they are talking Dick is as well. They both want Amber to win next HoH.

Daniele is now telling Jess that Dick has been nice to Kail to get on her good side. He totally sees through her and her act and he wants her out but he wants to throw her off. Jess says, [and I kid you not - Ptmsf] "Yeah, we aren't stupid."

8:40PM BBT: Carol is explaining Jameka's theory to Kail. Neither really understand her thinking.
NEWS ALERT: The Beer is Here! All are happy!

9:00PM BBT: Nick is telling Kail and Mike that Evil Dick is planning on putting both of them on the block if he gets HoH this week. Kail says that Evil Dick has to go. Now talks turns to this week's eviction and they are turning toward getting Amber out this week, instead of Carol.

Kail is worried about her safety in the house with Amber staying. She thinks it best if Carol stays in the house instead of having Amber stay. Nick is telling everyone he is running solo. Mike is worried he is becoming a target. He feels a lot of people in the house would want him out of the house right now. Dustin and Jen would be nominated by Joe and he wants to get Dustin out of here. Jen is a floater according to Mike and Dustin and Amber have an alliance. They think that Dick seems to be brains for all the young people. He is a very smart guy. Kail, Mike and Nick want Dick out of the house.

Kail, Mike, Nick, Zack are all keeping Carol in the house. Mike is going to try to approach Dick and ask if he would want to team up as he thinks he is a floater and doesn’t want to be nominated. All three think Dick will not win HoH, "It's a Twelve to one shot--" Kail says. Mike and Nick leave the room for some beer.

Jen and Kail in the HoH Room. Everyone else is either in the hot tub or the lounge area.

9:20PM BBT: In the kitchen, Amber, Daniele and Dustin are talking. Daniele is lying on her stomach on the counter, and BB finally asks her to get down. Daniele whispers and it's difficult to make out everything she says. Some of the talk is about the Mrs. Robinson alliance. Dustin says that the house is really divided into sides right now. Daniele asks if it is everyone against the Mrs. Robinson alliance. They keep saying "SHE" has to go. (Not sure if this is Kail or Jen, as both are upstairs together right now).

Jen is in the HoH room talking to Kail. She is telling Kail how she thinks people will vote. Jen claims that Joe is voting for Carol to stay, and Jessica and Dustin are voting for Amber to stay. She thinks that the house is pretty divided in votes with Carol versus Amber. Kail says, "Wow! The house really IS split." Jen says that out of all of the people in the house, she talks to Amber about the 13th (the least). So she would vote out Amber. Jen asks what Nick and Mike are saying. Kail says "Those guys don't tell me anything." Jen gives her a sort of disbelieving look, and Kail says that she does know that Nick seems close to Amber, though. Jen says that's the problem really--Amber and everyone else. Amber is close to everyone. Jen tells Kail that she knows that Nick and Amber "kind of ran into" each other a few times before the show started. Jen says that it was funny, because before she even knew about that, she felt that Nick and Amber had some connection.

In the kitchen again, they are worrying about the HoH camera. Dustin says it is turned off, and has been for a few days, so no worries. They wonder how he knows, and he says he spends a lot of time up there. Amber and Daniele both say they don't spend time up there. He says that is where he takes his number 2's. Amber says "Ewww."

Dustin in the bathroom with Jameka. He tells her that he hasn't had a wax in a while, and he would have to "get on all fours and arch his back." She asks if he just gets "the booty" done, and he says yes. Jameka wonders if he has a lot of hair, and he says to look at his face, his arms--just imagine. She asks if he has considered laser, and he says "not back there!"

Back in the kitchen, Amber says, "I know he would never, but.." and says it would be awful if he (Dustin) told everything that they tell him. She says that if that happened, it would be over--she would put him up for eviction.

Jess and Carol in the bedroom. Jen comes in. Carol whispers to Jen "I think I have 6". Jen says, okay, don't tell anyone who they are because that's how people get in trouble. Carol is now telling Jess that if she helps her stay she'll work with her, then goes on, again, about how she can't lie. Jess says "I trust you." Carol tells Jess she's not feeling confident, but she feels okay. Tells her she needs her (Jess) and she needs Eric. Jess tells her eric is going to be tough. See video.

10:00PM BBT: Kail and Zach whispering in the kitchen. Zach says something about Dustin will be gunning for him if Amber doesn't stay. Feeds jump to BY and then back to kitchen. [DumbBlonde was also watching on SHO and the feed keeps jumping every 20 seconds so no conversation could be followed.]

Nick and Daniele now alone in the hammock and doing their flirty routine as usual

Daniele says Kail has to go. Daniele asks if the HoH comes down to Mike, Jen, and him (Nick) will he try for the HoH then. He says yes. Daniele says she can't stand Zach. [ Daniele is running through the whole list in Nick's alliance.] Daniele says as much as she can't stand her dad she doesn't think she could nom him if she was HoH. She said her dad will be a good one to get to do all the dirty work. Her dad wants to put up Kail and Mike or Kail and Jen if he gets HoH [This will ruin things for Dick. She is literally sleeping with the enemy and has no clue.] Amber comes up and Daniele starts making fun of Carol saying that Carol can't keep a secret.

10:45PM BBT: Zach is on the hammock with Jen (although he doesn't look at Jen) and Carol is on the ground next to them. Talk turns to Daniele. Carol says she doesn't think Daniele likes her, although she is always nice to her face. She says that she thinks she talks bad when her back is turned, though.

Jen says Daniele does that with Dick. She's heard her talk nice to Dick like they are friends, and then tell people she hates him. Carol says that is a whole different situation, as Daniele has history with Dick, but not with her.

Jen says that she doesn't think that Nick has forgiven her. Zach says he doesn't think Nick will get over that anytime soon. He's not that kinda guy. Jen says Nick won't talk to her. Jen asks if Zach saw them in the bathroom? Zach says in a terse voice that he doesn't care, and he isn't interested in being involved in "other people's bullshit." Jen drops the subject.

11:20PM BBT: Jen, Carol and Zach in the bathroom doing facial masks. Zach returns for his mask removal and Carol warns him she left it on too long one time and ended up with a green face

Carol says that she could never afford for moisturizers that cost $250 that Jen uses, she gets on the scale "Holy fuck," but doesn't say how much she weighs. Jen Keeps putting more stuff on hers and Zacks face. Dick walks in and sarcastically tells them "how radiant" they both look.

Carol says "I better pack up my stuff tonight, just in case. Ha! You have to anyway, though." They tell her that they vote tomorrow but the evicted person doesn't leave until Thursday.

11:30PM BBT: Joe's in the BY says it will be interesting tomorrow since they will be unable to talk after the vote.

Dustin and Zach are in the teacup. To prevent others from overhearing their names, they've given the HGs names of colors. Pink is Jen, Joe is Green. Dustin tells Zack that Joe is going for Jen (Pink) and not him. He tells Zach that Joe will put up him (Dustin) and Jen. Zach warns that if he goes up with Jen it may be close since she's a stronger player.

Dustin wants to know Zach's proposition. They say if Red wins HoH she is putting Green (Joe) up [not sure who Red is]. Dustin tells Zach he is not playing this game on a personal level rather than a vendetta. He tells him he would let someone else put Green (Joe) up but Zach says if he wins PoV would he backdoor him and Dustin says yes. Zach says he will never throw an HoH "I'm too much of a gamer to do that."

The conversation continued with more references to colors and we don't know what players the colors represent. Zach also says something making sure there are enough votes to evict Carol, but the last we heard from Mrs. Robinson, it's Amber that going. So between the lies and the codes, we're confused. You can read the forum, starting here where Hellfury thinks he broke the code.

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